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		<title>By: Jacqui Best</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacqui Best</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 20:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Penzi,

You can either try the Recover It All software, or I can remote in to your computer and try to fix the problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Penzi,</p>
<p>You can either try the Recover It All software, or I can remote in to your computer and try to fix the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: penzi</title>
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		<dc:creator>penzi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Dec 2010 15:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my HDD drive shows that i need to format it when trying to access it but i cant format it because i really need the data in it please help</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my HDD drive shows that i need to format it when trying to access it but i cant format it because i really need the data in it please help</p>
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		<title>By: Jacqui Best</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacqui Best</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 16:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike,

It could be that whatever locked up the PC is what is causing it not to boot. From a data recovery stand point that could be bad sectors. From a stand point that could be anything from a virus to a bad windows update. Can you access the drive if you slave it to another PC?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>It could be that whatever locked up the PC is what is causing it not to boot. From a data recovery stand point that could be bad sectors. From a stand point that could be anything from a virus to a bad windows update. Can you access the drive if you slave it to another PC?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Perris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Perris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 09:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a Dell Dimension9200 running XP Pro. I had to shut down the computer with the on/off button because it had locked up and would not switch off in the normal way. On booting the computer all was good up to the XP screen and the scroll bar scrolling - then that was it, it would not go beyond this point. I did try several times to re boot but got the same.
I removed the hard drive and replaced it with a spare and all was well, so I think the comuter is OK and it&#039;s a hard drive problem?
Any help would be appreciated. Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a Dell Dimension9200 running XP Pro. I had to shut down the computer with the on/off button because it had locked up and would not switch off in the normal way. On booting the computer all was good up to the XP screen and the scroll bar scrolling &#8211; then that was it, it would not go beyond this point. I did try several times to re boot but got the same.<br />
I removed the hard drive and replaced it with a spare and all was well, so I think the comuter is OK and it&#8217;s a hard drive problem?<br />
Any help would be appreciated. Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Stankard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Stankard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 16:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Todd, I am happy to hear you were able to change out the board and recover your data! We see a lot of PCB board problems and always look there first before opening a hard drive. You were very smart to match up revision numbers, because many newer models may have the same numbers, but not the same firmware. While changing a board will rarely cause more damage, it is a stroke of luck when it works. We fix the boards, rather than trying to find parts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Todd, I am happy to hear you were able to change out the board and recover your data! We see a lot of PCB board problems and always look there first before opening a hard drive. You were very smart to match up revision numbers, because many newer models may have the same numbers, but not the same firmware. While changing a board will rarely cause more damage, it is a stroke of luck when it works. We fix the boards, rather than trying to find parts.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 21:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK - I know this is an old thread, but this may be valuable to somebody desperately searching &#039;hd data recovery&#039;.

As this site states, that &#039;kerlunk... kerlunk&#039; &#039;CLICK OF DEATH&#039; sound is not necessarily physical &#039;head&#039; damage.  It may also be simply a transistor or chip going out on the green circuit board that is part of the hard drive.  I had the same problem (kerlunk...kerlunk...kerlunk - computer not recognizing WD400 hard drive).  The freezer trick wouldn&#039;t work, and numerous inquiries to &#039;data recovery&#039; specialists quoted me anywhere from $1800 to $2400 (US) to recover the data.  Swallowing hard, I figured the digital photos still on the hard drive (yeah, I know it was stoooopid for not backing up the last couple years of data) were worth saving up to get them recovered.  But I sure didn&#039;t have the bucks on hand to do it immediately, and from what I could tell none of the &#039;data recovery&#039; experts could say with certainty that they could recover anything.

I started searched high and wide on the internet and eventually found the same hard drive on eBay.  It had the same MDL number, same DCM number, and same number printed on the circuit board!  It was like a needle in the haystack from the number of close but not exact hard drives I saw on numerous other sites.  IT IS POSSIBLE TO FIND AN EXACT MATCH!  I bought the hard drive immediately for $55 (US - shipping included), and when I received it 4 days later I undid the 4 torx screws on my defunct HD&#039;s circuit board and switched it with the circuit board from the HD I just purchased off eBay.  4 torx screws later, popping the drive in an external HD enclosure, powering up and plugging the USB into a laptop and WAH-LAH!!  My hard drive was working again and I IMMEDIATELY backed up all my digital photographs to the laptop.

Not saying that this is the norm - I don&#039;t know, all I know is it saved me at least $1,745 and a LOT of stress.  I can&#039;t remember yelling as loud or celebrating as loudly as I did when that HD spun up and showed up on Windows Explorer.  I was celebrating like I had won the mega-lottery when that WD hard drive spun up and was recognized.....  Hopefully this works for somebody else someday.  I&#039;ve learned my BACKUP lesson well and thankfully it didn&#039;t cost me upwards of $2000 US to learn it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK &#8211; I know this is an old thread, but this may be valuable to somebody desperately searching &#8216;hd data recovery&#8217;.</p>
<p>As this site states, that &#8216;kerlunk&#8230; kerlunk&#8217; &#8216;CLICK OF DEATH&#8217; sound is not necessarily physical &#8216;head&#8217; damage.  It may also be simply a transistor or chip going out on the green circuit board that is part of the hard drive.  I had the same problem (kerlunk&#8230;kerlunk&#8230;kerlunk &#8211; computer not recognizing WD400 hard drive).  The freezer trick wouldn&#8217;t work, and numerous inquiries to &#8216;data recovery&#8217; specialists quoted me anywhere from $1800 to $2400 (US) to recover the data.  Swallowing hard, I figured the digital photos still on the hard drive (yeah, I know it was stoooopid for not backing up the last couple years of data) were worth saving up to get them recovered.  But I sure didn&#8217;t have the bucks on hand to do it immediately, and from what I could tell none of the &#8216;data recovery&#8217; experts could say with certainty that they could recover anything.</p>
<p>I started searched high and wide on the internet and eventually found the same hard drive on eBay.  It had the same MDL number, same DCM number, and same number printed on the circuit board!  It was like a needle in the haystack from the number of close but not exact hard drives I saw on numerous other sites.  IT IS POSSIBLE TO FIND AN EXACT MATCH!  I bought the hard drive immediately for $55 (US &#8211; shipping included), and when I received it 4 days later I undid the 4 torx screws on my defunct HD&#8217;s circuit board and switched it with the circuit board from the HD I just purchased off eBay.  4 torx screws later, popping the drive in an external HD enclosure, powering up and plugging the USB into a laptop and WAH-LAH!!  My hard drive was working again and I IMMEDIATELY backed up all my digital photographs to the laptop.</p>
<p>Not saying that this is the norm &#8211; I don&#8217;t know, all I know is it saved me at least $1,745 and a LOT of stress.  I can&#8217;t remember yelling as loud or celebrating as loudly as I did when that HD spun up and showed up on Windows Explorer.  I was celebrating like I had won the mega-lottery when that WD hard drive spun up and was recognized&#8230;..  Hopefully this works for somebody else someday.  I&#8217;ve learned my BACKUP lesson well and thankfully it didn&#8217;t cost me upwards of $2000 US to learn it.</p>
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		<title>By: W130SN</title>
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		<dc:creator>W130SN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 02:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can the same thing be done with Sata drives?

My son&#039;s computer crashed/froze so he did a hard reset i.e powered off without shutting down through windows vista. Now hard drive is not recognized in the BIOS. After POST it displays &quot;Reboot and select proper boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device and press a key&quot; (or something very similar). Is there anyway to save this drive ? It is under a year old. 

I have another system with the same model drive , both are SATA , what would you suggest I do next ?

Thanks

HAPPY NEW YEAR

Regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can the same thing be done with Sata drives?</p>
<p>My son&#8217;s computer crashed/froze so he did a hard reset i.e powered off without shutting down through windows vista. Now hard drive is not recognized in the BIOS. After POST it displays &#8220;Reboot and select proper boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device and press a key&#8221; (or something very similar). Is there anyway to save this drive ? It is under a year old. </p>
<p>I have another system with the same model drive , both are SATA , what would you suggest I do next ?</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>HAPPY NEW YEAR</p>
<p>Regards</p>
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		<dc:creator>HELP! HDD died on me!!! - Page 2 - 8th Generation Honda Civic Forum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 20:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Oh and this was the site I heard about the Having 2 exact HDD from  Do It Yourself Solution: Hard Drive Crash Recovery [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Oh and this was the site I heard about the Having 2 exact HDD from  Do It Yourself Solution: Hard Drive Crash Recovery [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 04:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my laptop crashed and when I use the Recovery &amp; System disks I get the following :  Fail to Restore.dat files.  

I called Acer in regards to this matter and they sent out new recovery CD&#039;s, but still the same message appears.  Was running Windows Vista.  

Please advise as to what the problem maybe. 

thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my laptop crashed and when I use the Recovery &amp; System disks I get the following :  Fail to Restore.dat files.  </p>
<p>I called Acer in regards to this matter and they sent out new recovery CD&#8217;s, but still the same message appears.  Was running Windows Vista.  </p>
<p>Please advise as to what the problem maybe. </p>
<p>thank you</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Stankard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Stankard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 16:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, Dick Correa was kind enough to provide the answer to Kevin&#039;s question:

Okay,  this is how it is done.

1. The board on the good drive is unscrewed from the drive itself but left connected to the drive and this drive is connected to the PC.
2. The computer is booted registering the good drives system area
3. A command is issued either through software, or a PC3000 board to spin down the drive but not to power down.
4. The good drive is disconnected from the board, and the bad drive is connected in its place.
5. A command is sent to the drive to spin up the drive using software or a PC3000 board.

So, you now have a drive mounted with a good system area.  The problem with this fix is that the Permanent Defect List, and the Growth, or Hot Defect List are tied to the good drive and not the bad drive.  So you have a tendency to get bad sectors. The only way to eliminate the bad sectors is to wipe the system area with software, or a PC3000 board.  Then you clone the drive taking all the sectors on the drive that have not been remapped.  Finally, you use a piece of software to align the file system and then you can start pulling your data off.

The alignment software only works for FAT32 and comes with the PC3000 board.  You can however align it yourself using WinHex, and the file entry table using the FAT as a guide.  You can also do it with NTFS but you would have to do it by hand.  If you only need a few files then this is a viable alternative, however for many files this is a real headache.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, Dick Correa was kind enough to provide the answer to Kevin&#8217;s question:</p>
<p>Okay,  this is how it is done.</p>
<p>1. The board on the good drive is unscrewed from the drive itself but left connected to the drive and this drive is connected to the PC.<br />
2. The computer is booted registering the good drives system area<br />
3. A command is issued either through software, or a PC3000 board to spin down the drive but not to power down.<br />
4. The good drive is disconnected from the board, and the bad drive is connected in its place.<br />
5. A command is sent to the drive to spin up the drive using software or a PC3000 board.</p>
<p>So, you now have a drive mounted with a good system area.  The problem with this fix is that the Permanent Defect List, and the Growth, or Hot Defect List are tied to the good drive and not the bad drive.  So you have a tendency to get bad sectors. The only way to eliminate the bad sectors is to wipe the system area with software, or a PC3000 board.  Then you clone the drive taking all the sectors on the drive that have not been remapped.  Finally, you use a piece of software to align the file system and then you can start pulling your data off.</p>
<p>The alignment software only works for FAT32 and comes with the PC3000 board.  You can however align it yourself using WinHex, and the file entry table using the FAT as a guide.  You can also do it with NTFS but you would have to do it by hand.  If you only need a few files then this is a viable alternative, however for many files this is a real headache.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Stankard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Stankard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 16:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin, I was told that they made the cable themselves. I am looking around to see if there is anyone selling it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin, I was told that they made the cable themselves. I am looking around to see if there is anyone selling it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 13:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please explain the switchable power/IDE cable. Is this a standard cable? special cable? Do you have a supplier for the cable?

Thank You Kevin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please explain the switchable power/IDE cable. Is this a standard cable? special cable? Do you have a supplier for the cable?</p>
<p>Thank You Kevin</p>
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